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that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request mark halperin of time magazine and benjamin brafman, a leading trial attorney. the mitt romney was on display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot youill and very vague about th
that romney was not predictable. he came in so strong and so in charge that he basically took over the room and i felt he was sufficient in that stage, meaning the president didn't need to be there for romney to put on that show and jim lehrer didn't need to be there, it was a romney control of that space and that physical control of that space which was so dominant. i don't think we have seen anything like it before. and in probably a presidential debate. >> rose: we continue request...
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just left romney come at him. and let him get exhausted. >> we just heard that sound byte from david axelrod. stating the record is not going on the attack. stating the record about where we were and where we are and where we are going is not an attack. last night we saw an american businessman tell the american people he really wants the job. we felt it. and whether you like it or not, i know substance is a big issue, but presentation in debates is also very important. and it leaves an impression on people who don't have a job. this guy wants the job. president obama last night, he seemed timid at times and off his game as if i really got to go into this rope-a-done strategy. you know what? i'm a strategy supporter, and i think president obama had a bad night. he's had a great four years considering and that's where my focus goes from here, but i'm not going to be in denial that the president needs to pivot on this and needs to get aggressive on the record, not so much to be negative against things that romney ha
just left romney come at him. and let him get exhausted. >> we just heard that sound byte from david axelrod. stating the record is not going on the attack. stating the record about where we were and where we are and where we are going is not an attack. last night we saw an american businessman tell the american people he really wants the job. we felt it. and whether you like it or not, i know substance is a big issue, but presentation in debates is also very important. and it leaves an...
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>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love these answers. thanks so much, bob shrum. i knew you wouldn't do this. joan, thanks so much. coming up -- yours at least was legitimate. >>> coming up, what can brown do for you? he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and th
>> for romney, i got one for romney which would be, you know -- for the president rather, your opponent says that he favored the kind of reorganization and bailout in bankruptcy that ultimately worked for the auto industry but with no public money. mr. president, was there private money available, and if there wasn't, what would have happened? >> thank you. >> i'm not jim lehrer, i'm not fair. >> that's really tough for obama. in other words, the other guy's -- i love...
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and it's like romney wins romney wins, and i was like that's interesting, because i still didn't get any answers and he was just kind of lying about everything he had said. he just kept going back and forth and back and forth and the big thing for me more than anything, which is why i'm out here in ohio today and i'll be going to virginia and wisconsin is just to really rally young people to get out there and register to vote and to vote early. because last year there was about 507 votes were the difference. >> stephanie: right. >> and right now it is such -- you know polar opposites and it makes such a big difference for us to vote -- >> stephanie: yeah. >> because i'm afraid -- what happened with the debate now people end up taking it and thinking that romney was the winner. i feel it is really important actually for people to realize -- and a lot of my friends automatically say obama is going to win. >> stephanie: yeah, right. >> but then -- then there's that situation where we have all been in, where you don't vote because you realize that oh your guy is going to win and then you
and it's like romney wins romney wins, and i was like that's interesting, because i still didn't get any answers and he was just kind of lying about everything he had said. he just kept going back and forth and back and forth and the big thing for me more than anything, which is why i'm out here in ohio today and i'll be going to virginia and wisconsin is just to really rally young people to get out there and register to vote and to vote early. because last year there was about 507 votes were...
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romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds. first to ohio. a newp pp poll, president obama's lead there is four points, 49 to 45. ppp tends to lean democratic but the new columbus dispatch poll shows the president with a lead more than twice as big. he's up nine in the newspaper poll. 51/42. in iowa, a new des moines register poll has the president up 49/45. that's been a tricky state, iowa. we'll be right back. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in clas
romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? >>> new polling from some key midwestern battlegrounds....
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mitt romney just came to play. mark is right. >> an interesting thing, mark, back to that again, romney seemed to know it was free form. it was like a city basketball game. you know, winners get the ball. every time you make a good shot, it's not like in the nba where you have to turn the ball over. he knew if he kept shooting he could keep hitting and control the ball and the ref in this case, lehrer, tried to get the ball back and say, no, you can't have, it i want it. lehrer would say okay. how did he know it was going to be that free an opportunity to just hog the ball? >> he was like a guy in the fourth quarter that wants the ball. he wants to play and he wants to score. >> he got it. >> and i think that was from, again, watching those primary debates. you just saw over time how increasingly he would do that and he'd dominate and interject and he learned how to do that. that was a learned skill. he got his chops together and really learned how to do it and learned how to execute. >> both these guys know what t
mitt romney just came to play. mark is right. >> an interesting thing, mark, back to that again, romney seemed to know it was free form. it was like a city basketball game. you know, winners get the ball. every time you make a good shot, it's not like in the nba where you have to turn the ball over. he knew if he kept shooting he could keep hitting and control the ball and the ref in this case, lehrer, tried to get the ball back and say, no, you can't have, it i want it. lehrer would say...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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romney was good. he got in the personal stories we heard from the trail. when he gets to the town hall he's going to have to do more about just talk with people he met and he has to engage. that's a different level. >> 1992, obama used to go back and look at the per perrot and clinton and he has that strength. he's a connector so we need to see him press the flesh and sell the smile. >> can you majts what that was like? >> it's the missed opportunity. would any political consultant will tell you is that you have to align your paid media with your free media. a debate is free media. his paid media is all about bane, the dream act, the auto industry rescue. right on down the looirn. in the paid media, none of them were mentioned except in passing. >> here's a good bipartisan question. why don't you take the messages of your paid media and use them in the debate? >> jonathan is so right. gm bailout helped obama win ohio in the polls. where was the message? >> in passing. that's the key. in passing. >> th
romney was good. he got in the personal stories we heard from the trail. when he gets to the town hall he's going to have to do more about just talk with people he met and he has to engage. that's a different level. >> 1992, obama used to go back and look at the per perrot and clinton and he has that strength. he's a connector so we need to see him press the flesh and sell the smile. >> can you majts what that was like? >> it's the missed opportunity. would any political...
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the consensus was that mitt romney desperately needed a strong showing. and as grace lee shows us, he pretty much delivered. >> reporter: the polls show that the former governor knocked it out of the park. 500 uncommitted voters asked who won this debate. 46% said it was romney. only 20% said the president was the victor for the night. the man who has been fighting to show that he relates to the average american this whole election cycle, 56% of those polled say they had a better opinion of the former governor now. what started out as cordial quickly became heated. >> governor romney's proposal that he's been promoting for 18 months calls for a $5 million tax cut. and he is saying that he is going to pay for it by closing loopholes in deductions. the problem is, he's been asked over 100 times how you would close those deductions and loopholes and he hasn't been able to identify them. >> everything you just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i would say absolutely not. i'm not looki
the consensus was that mitt romney desperately needed a strong showing. and as grace lee shows us, he pretty much delivered. >> reporter: the polls show that the former governor knocked it out of the park. 500 uncommitted voters asked who won this debate. 46% said it was romney. only 20% said the president was the victor for the night. the man who has been fighting to show that he relates to the average american this whole election cycle, 56% of those polled say they had a better opinion...
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romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to...
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and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy, seth one and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you you go about creating new jobs?w you have two minutes. each have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, yu for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romnek and university of denver for your are hospitality. there are lot of points i wantr to make tonight but the most important one is that 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obamt agreed to mary me and i just want to wish sweety, you happyd anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of
and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy, seth one and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you you go about creating new jobs?w you have two minutes. each have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, yu for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romnek...
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but romney is vulnerable. he said things last night that the world may or may not know are false. >> yes. >> and it's the job now, i think, of the democratic party and of the president to point that out, point it out continually, and to bring it to the front and the fore in the next debate and look at his opponent and to look at the american people and say, this is wrong and this is what is right. he's capable of that. >> and no more. [ speaking french ] >> what mr. lipton said is an important strategy. >> i'm keeping with the french thing. [ speaking french ] >> you know something? the -- there was an expression, john green leaf, the great poet said, for all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these, it might have been. that's what happened to the president of the united states and that's must not happen again. when i was writing plays, the most important moment of your play, the last two minutes before the audience goes out to intermission because that's all they'll remember. that is where, oddly en
but romney is vulnerable. he said things last night that the world may or may not know are false. >> yes. >> and it's the job now, i think, of the democratic party and of the president to point that out, point it out continually, and to bring it to the front and the fore in the next debate and look at his opponent and to look at the american people and say, this is wrong and this is what is right. he's capable of that. >> and no more. [ speaking french ] >> what mr....
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put romney on the defensive. how dire you give tax breaks to the richest people in this country while we have the most unfair distribution of wealth and income. how dare you throw children off of medicaid when we've got 50 million people without any health insurance today. put him on the defensive instead of saying oh, i agree with you on this. i agree with you on that. you've got to take responsibility and the responsibility is with the president. >> we'll see if he follows your advice in the next debate and the one after that. >>> they're expressions may tell more than their words. we're taking a look at some special face reading software and what it reveals about the presidential debate. ♪ at quicken loans, our amazingly useful mortgage calculator app allows you to quickly calculate your mortgage payment based on today's incredibly low interest rates... right from your iphone or android smartphone. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ♪ bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to t
put romney on the defensive. how dire you give tax breaks to the richest people in this country while we have the most unfair distribution of wealth and income. how dare you throw children off of medicaid when we've got 50 million people without any health insurance today. put him on the defensive instead of saying oh, i agree with you on this. i agree with you on that. you've got to take responsibility and the responsibility is with the president. >> we'll see if he follows your advice...
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romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona. this word comes from mexican police as they've arrested two people. >>> d.c. police confirm they're investigating allegations that a guard sexually assaulted an inmate. sources tell wtop radio the allegations are that a guard removed an inmate from his cell, took him to an area where there are no security cameras and assaulted him. those sources also say a second guard witnessed the assault but did not report it. >>> tonight we've got a sketch of the man wanted for fondling at least five women in springfield. take a good look. the most recent att
romney actually have two debates remaining. one on october 16th on long island, and the last one six days later in florida. there's also one vice presidential debate a week from tonight in kentucky. derek. >> we'll be watching them all. cbs news has learned that investigators are looking into the possibility that a border patrol agent killed earlier this week died from friendly fire. nicholas ivie and two other agents came under attack just north of the border near birkz sbee, arizona....
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romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of his worst numbers. which is that president obama has so far not bee
romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be...
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let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing conditions. there is a reason why governor romney set up a plan he did in massachusetts. it was not a government takeover of health carr. it was the largest expansion of private insurance. what it does say is insurers, you havv to take everybody. that also means yyu have more customers. but when governor romney says he will replace it with some thing, but can not detail how it will be replaced, and the reason he said the system in massachusetts is because there is not a better way of dealing with the pre-existing conditions problem. he says he will
let's go back to what governor romney indicated.. under his plan, he would be able to cover people with pre-%+ existing conditions. actually, governor, that is not what your plan does. what it does is to duplicate what is already the law, which says, if you are out of health insurance for three months, you pan end up getting continuous coverage and an insurance company cannot deny you if it but that is already the law. that does not help the millions of people out there with pre- existing...
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what happens is he's perceived of being weaker than romney. romney gave eye contact. he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the smirk. i want to show it to you. this is fascinating. listen to this. we're having a few issues. >> i'll talk about it. i know what you're talking about. it's interesting that they would call that the smirk because romney -- gerri: right there. >> yes, romney's the one famous for the smirk. it's like they are trying to turn the tails saying, look what obama did now. he does smirk, but his smirk is a tightening of the mouth, his way of saying i don't agree with you, and roleny keeps that smirk on the face all the time. both need to work on the neutral expression. that means what do i look
what happens is he's perceived of being weaker than romney. romney gave eye contact. he was more aggressive nan obama was. in in situation, especially, president obama should have lifted the face up and given him face time, but he chose to -- gerri: what about the audience though. >> he did. he spoke into the camera. you look into a camera, and you talk to them. he did that. he just didn't do it enough. gerri: lrpt. republican national committee came out with this, what they call the...
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no economist can say mitt romney's plan adds $5 trillion. if i say i had not add to the deficit with my tax plan. number two, i won't reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, and it's not the case. look, i have five boys, i'm used to people saying something that isn't always true and keep on saying it hoping ultimately i will believe it. that is not the case. i had not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans, and number three, i had not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle income families. i will lower taxes on middle income faemdmilies. you cite a study, there are six other studies that look at that study and say it's completely wrong. i saw a study that says you will raise taxes by $3 to $4 million on middle income families. all these studies down there i want to bring the rates down at the same time we lower deductions and exemptions and credits and so forth so keep getting the revenue we need. why lower the rates? the reason is, because small business pays
no economist can say mitt romney's plan adds $5 trillion. if i say i had not add to the deficit with my tax plan. number two, i won't reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, and it's not the case. look, i have five boys, i'm used to people saying something that isn't always true and keep on saying it hoping ultimately i will believe it. that is not the case. i had not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans, and number...
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he allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to take a chunk of money from the government and go out and buy their own insurance. only a limited amount of money would be available. then the costs go up, the senior citizens, who get that, have to pay the difference. the guarantee would be gone. that is the substance of how they would deal with medicare and that is the way it would be. the president did not make the case as effectively as he should of on that. >> that is factually wrong. let me just say, that is factually wrong. under the romney plan, the amount of money the government will give you is equal to the amount of the second lowest bid, meaning that you can get that plan for nothing, or the cheaper plan, there will be one cheaper, and then you can keep the extra money in your pocket. you have a choice, with no expenditure on your part of at least two plans, and you also have a plan for traditional medicare. >> allow me to add a factor here. under this precept, what i support is no
he allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to take a chunk of money from the government and go out and buy their own insurance. only a limited amount of money would be available. then the costs go up, the senior citizens, who get that, have to pay the difference. the guarantee would be gone. that is the substance of how they would deal with medicare and that is the way it would be. the president did not make the case as effectively as he should of on that....
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governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're adding a trillion a year is simply not moral. how do we deal with it? mathematically there are three ways. one of course is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending and number 3 is to grow the economy, because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes, i understand. the problem with raising taxes is it slows down the rate of growth. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. what would i cut? fi
governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're...
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this is fodder for the romney campaign. all not changed, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events. there is no question that the obama campaign folks, every time joe biden is out there, partners about how it will come out. they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning him up. >> what do you think? vice-presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens that joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along very well. there were debt negotiations with those two were the ones that had the best rapport of all the participants. i think it will be a fun and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i was sitting there thinking, ok, obama did not show up to play. this is unbelievably boring. if i did not have to do this for a living, i would watch
this is fodder for the romney campaign. all not changed, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events. there is no question that the obama campaign folks, every time joe biden is out there, partners about how it will come out. they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning him up. >> what do you think? vice-presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens that joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get...